The fore-end iron attaches in such a way that the fore-end itself is nothing more than a cosmetic cover. According to Vignaroli, The modularity of the design means that the function of the various subassemblies is almost independent. He added that, Wherever it is needed is strong material; wherever it is not needed is light material. For instance, the aluminum receiver is unstressed, and departs even from other aluminum-receiver shotguns in the sense that its hinge and locking components do not directly bear the brunt of firing stresses. A U-shaped spring steel wire clip attached to the cocking plate automatically activates the safety when the gun is broken open, but can be removed by the user to deactivate that feature. Benelli says that they subjectively estimate the felt-recoil reduction at around 30 percent. I do not recall the barrel length of this 828, it is at her place. So especially the beginning was really tough for usunderstanding the over-under and its habits and the way the gun moved.. Kind of a unique looking gun. They made it so Benelli fanboys could have Benelli O/U. This is a simple function of physics; a lighter gun will deliver more recoil momentum to the shooters shoulder than a heavier gun. Of course, if a barrel does not fire, the plate remains in its extractor-only position, and separate rods gently press back the extractors, allowing manual removal of that unfired shell. The lever cocking the firing mechanism felt very solid and is a new concept you don't see on other guns. As the project progressed, he said, it moved even more toward a hunting gun, but he added that, the way it was conceived in terms of separate assembliesthe stock, the barrels, the triggermade it a platform that, in time, might be easily expanded to other sectors., Vignaroli said the 828U, which was in development for three years and was granted three patents and a revision on a fourth, was the result of every one of the Urbino factorys 270 workers. So, How Does It Handle?Perhaps more than any other type of firearm platform, a shotgun is designed to function as an extension of the shooters body. Hosts Mark and Robin Braatens comfortable lodge provided an ideal setting in which I was able to discuss the guns design with the Urbino-based engineer who spearheaded it: Marco Vignaroli. The Benelli didn't fill me with the same inspiration. I am also hoping that the colors they are using are a more accurate match to my pen. Over on Shotgun World in I love my Benelli, there have been some problems reported about the 828 U trigger assembly dropping out, ejector problems and problems with the breech lock popping open. Over Under shotguns are considered to be out of style nowadays. Oof. They simply aren't very good and they are more than twice the price they should be. Your email address will not be published. Reinforcing the theme of mechanical modularity is a self-contained trigger module that can be removed from the receiver with an included tool. The trade-off in the field is that most shooters will take a lighter gun that carries better, because just one extra pound adds up over several miles of kicking pheasants up. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I am wondering if anyone can give me insight as to what I am doing wrong? This system has a set of interlocking polymer leaf springs in the stock to reduce recoil. Lithe, purposeful and menacing in black, the 828U Sport looks like it's spoiling for a fight straight out of the box. In 2014, early production samples were unveiled during an upland hunt at Browns Hunting Ranch near the town of Gettysburg in the pheasant-rich game fields of South Dakota. Two versions are available: one with a black anodized receiver and one with a silver-tone receiver said to be the result of a nickel-based treatment. Most of the problems were associated with the extractor/ejector arrangement. *What is the (approx) street price for a new 828u Sport? And just for the record my go to gun is a SBE. It is a nice color, and is the perfect size to comfortably hold in one hand. Internally, the Browning has a mechanical trigger system, back-bored barrels with lengthened forcing cones, and the Invector-DS internal choke tube system, with Improved Cylinder, Modified, and Full tubes included with the Field model, the same features introduced when the original Model 725 hit the market. It features a single, selective inertia trigger system with a tang-mounted barrel selector/safety button. One was NRA Publications Editorial Director John Zent, an experienced upland hunter and clays shot. As if I could actually write with my pen. The silver receiver model, well it was not pleasant for me to shoot, and I've owned a few Benelli s/a's with no issues. Recoil with the Browning using the two light loads was well within the comfortable range, and spent shells were ejected with authority each and every time there were no malfunctions of any kind. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Benelli is not giving me any additional information, but have stated it is damaged and they will not repair or replace the wear I have apparently done. The Benelli 828U is a major disappointment and an outright embarrassment. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. Written and photographed by Ralph Winingham, using evaluations from Gun Tests team testers. Utilizing an inertia trigger system that requires the firing of the first barrel to engage the second, the Model 828U triggers touched off at 4.5 pounds for the bottom barrel and 4 pounds for the top. They have sold so few new ones there simply aren't many on the street.Look on Gun Broker. IMO, I think in O/U shotguns, especially those used for targets, a receiver made of steel not alloy is a must. The 828U is a lightweight gunimportant for a long session of upland hunting in which it is likely to be carried much more of the time than it is shotbut it is the distribution of the weight that is key. Excellent - 95%+ condition with or without box. I had really good luck with it. I have been wanting to buy some benelli pens for a while now, so Im glad I bought it at a discounted price. I decided that I wanted to become a member and contribute to this community, and posted some questions in a respectful manner. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. I have been in the market for a midtier over under and am a huge Benelli fan as well. On another thread someone mentioned that street price for a new 828U Sport was already in the $3300 range. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A ragged pattern that might only cause a chip to fly off a clay target is acceptable on the range, but a crippling shot on a bird in the field because of ineffective pellet trauma is not. I know it is a challenge to try, but I think it is a very good pen for writing. Connecting with birds under such conditions can be a challenge, and it requires a gun that points naturally, swings fast and predictably and is capable of shooting tight patterns. These dimensions are right on the average mark for an out-of-the-box shotgun, and our various team members had no problems adjusting to the fit. And that brings up another major point in describing how the 828U is different from traditional over-unders. It's the OU that folks love to hate, I guess it bucks traditional builds and some folks just aren't receptive to that. If you're only going to drag it out for upland a dozen hunts a year or less I think one could justify it. The 828U is not cocked by any system of rods or levers, but rather by the top lever itself. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Manuals. The 828U differs in a couple of important respects. Matine1 - I have the same issue on an 828U. Hardly ever. with pheasant hunting every year has one and likes it. I showed my wife, asked her which one she likes better, she said the silver receiverfunny how when I told her it was $500 more, she changed her mind to the black one. I did get an exceptional deal on it. It seems like the 828U Sport is a better gun than the original/field model 828U, certainly so for clay shooting. To minimize this, the 828U cheekpiece has a replaceable Air Foam pad that cushions your face. The action on the Benelli Sport II is strong, fast, and flawlessly cycles pretty much any target load you try to feed it. Though I wouldnt recommend it, I would love to see how it works with the other benelli pens. Instead of a hinge-and-pin system, the 828U has a free-floating steel locking plate. Crio -treated chokes in C, IC, M, IM, and F are also included. This pen is currently only available for $39.95 at benelli.com, and it is available in 16 different colors. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Both chokes however would screw into the bottom barrel with absolutely no issue. This article, "Breaking With Tradition," appeared originally in the November 2015 issue of American Rifleman. Have only shouldered one, never had a chance to shoot one. Benelli has very little experience with over/unders. of No. Perhaps because of the well-known reputation of Benelli as the maker of fine semiautomatics, even a casual observer will notice the new Model 828U almost appears to have been constructed with some semiautomatic parts or features. In fact, it has been my favorite pen for so long. I really like the silver with the engraving. When I first got the firearm it became stuck in the cracked open position not able to come apart or even be closed. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In addition, the Model 828U has a unique lever that re-cocks the hammers when pushed to the right, rather than relying on opening the action to reset the hammers as in standard over-and-unders. Current offerings are in 12 gauge with 3" chambers and 26" or 28" barrels. The company promoted the design as Inertia Drivea form of delayed-blowback operationbut, in a twist of literary serendipity, the ID label came to be synonymous with its corporate identity. Hello I purchased a 828U several months ago in 12 gauge, and have had nothing but problems. The other issue already mentioned is long term durability due to the alloy receiver. Ive been using benelli 828u for a few weeks now, and it is surprisingly fast and easy to use. The gun was impressive, apart from a few nags:2 1) Auto safety ! Our trip to the patterning board before field testing on the clay target range with the Browning was an eye-opener. Pressing it fully through its arc first withdraws two barrel locking pins from their recesses in the monobloc then rotates a lever fitted with a roller within the receiver that presses back a cocking plate in the trigger module to load the striker springs. JavaScript is disabled. When you are in a hurry, it is easy to forget to hold the pencil, or not to look at your phone. This Model 725 Field was no exception. Buddy went with the Fabarm. That the 828U breaks with the tradition of previous over-under shotguns and with all other guns that have come from its family before it is without question. The pen is a nice size, and has a nice weight. Shooting just a little high is exactly what a field shotgun should do to handle rising targets. Buddy of mine bought one because he duck hunted with s SBE. I did get an exceptional deal on it. Hello I purchased a 828U several months ago in 12 gauge, and have had nothing but problems. The Benelli 828u is a pen that I received as a gift. I think it is a decent gun for the money I paid for it. A transverse passage in each chamber contains a floating pin that is bumped a few thousandths of an inch to actuate sears on the ejector body on either side of the monobloc, causing the extractors to forcefully throw empty hulls free of the gun. The ammunition, too, obviously, plays an important part, and ours was, somewhat appropriately, an Italian-made Fiocchi GPX offering consisting of 2" shells carrying 138 ozs. The swing was beautiful but the recoil destroyed me. You are using an out of date browser. Also, we fired 2.75-inch Nobel Low Recoil Target loads with 78 ounce of No. Poor gun fit increases felt recoil, and insufficient drop is the main culprit, but the 828's three-tiered shim system lets you go from 42.5mm to 65mm of drop in 2.5mm increments until you get the perfect fit. They include (l.): a shim kit that offers 40 different combinations of cast and drop adjustment; the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation module that resides within the buttstock; and interchangeable cheekpieces that can be swapped out to provide proper stock-to-face fit. The ammunition we selected for our testing on the target range and at the patterning board was Winchester AA Extra-Light Target 2.75-inch loads packing 1 ounce of No. 828U. In the field, my first shot on a live bird brought a similar, satisfying experience. Looks goofy as can be, like a camo space gun, but I use it for upland, waterfowl, and turkeys and without an issue. Texas. One can speculate that the only 20 shotguns Benelli ever made that shoot to point of aim at 40 yards were sent to me, but the chances of that are slim to none, and Slim just left town. This new field model patterned well, broke targets well, and looked good while doing its job. Recently, in a move unexpected by nearly everyone. " He has used it in S.D. I did handle it, I couldn't get over how long the reciever was. I dont try and go fast and never use anything force, more just move the parts. I'm trying to be the person my Little Brown Dog acts like I am. She praised the guns appearance, calling it nice and light and adding that it balanced and came to the face well. I agree that Gunbroker is showing prices close to MSRP. However, I once shot a CG O/U a few times and had to have one. And the birds we encountered were not only tough and of good size, but wary, running and flushing sometimes hundreds of yards ahead of the dogs. And the birds we encountered were not only tough and of good size, but wary, running and flushing sometimes hundreds of yards ahead of the dogs. However, a guy at our club has a new 30" 828U Sport and it felt really nice (I didn't get to shoot it). True to Vignarolis characterizations, the 828U proved to be a very dependable gun and ejection of spent hulls was in fact very energetic. Everyone who shot the gun had positive things to say about its neutral balance, ease of pointing and light weight. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Title. They definitely arent like a browning or beretta which I really want to like but never feel right to me. It was the worst over under I've ever shot. 8 shot and an average muzzle velocity of 1,200 fps. It is held just forward of the receivers face by two small springs when the action is open, and, as the gun closes, a lug in the monobloc under the lower barrel engages a recess at the blocks bottom, and a groove on the monoblocs upper end engages a lip at the blocks top, locking the two together and pressing the block reward against the receivers face. Both inserting and withdrawing shells and spent hulls, even with a gloved hand, is noticeably less difficult than with many other over-unders and a real boon in the field when reloading. Results with the Improved Cylinder choke were substantially worse. I have good things to say about all of them. For younger shooters or shooters with shorter arms, the new Benelli 828U Compact comes with a 26-inch barrel and 14-inch length of pull, shortened from the 828U's original 14 3/8 inches. How Different Is It?Described dispassionately, the 828U is simply a wood-stocked over-under shotgun built around an aluminum receiver. It consists of a cast steel fire control housing pinned to an aluminum trigger guard. Error Code pii_email_a42277285fa7a777ff7e Solved, Personally identifiable information PII doesnt belong in your email University Information Technology The University of Utah, How to Get Rid of the pii_email_e7ab94772079efbbcb25 Error. The ammunition, too, obviously, plays an important part, and ours was, somewhat appropriately, an Italian-made. This tendency to shoot low and left went a long way toward explaining why our teams target busting experience with the Benelli was much less than satisfactory. The benelli 828u pen is a small, high quality, battery operated pen. Citori. Once my eye adjusted to the height of its rib and the glow of its fiber-optic bead, I began to routinely connect with clays that were 30 or more yards out and receding rapidly from sightthats with a gun straight off the rack that had not yet been fit to my particular physique. If youve got a computer and a pen, you can probably work with it. When I tried an 828U for real the felt-recoil was more than I'd want on a 100 target round - even on 24grm shells . Consider that we started from white paper. Benelli 828U Steel Specifications Chamber: 12- and 20-gauge (2 3/4- and 3-inch) Barrel Length: 26, 28, 30 in. Rather, the guns strikers are cocked by operating the top-mounted opening lever. To subscribe to the magazine,visit theNRA membership page here and selectAmerican Rifleman as your member magazine. Unfortunately, I think it would be great for other people as well. It tipped the scales at 7.75 pounds and measured 44.75 inches in length, with our team finding no fault in its heft or handling ability. This field shotgun provided a solid, well-balanced platform for handling clays and birds, as expected. Culminating in the 1993 introduction of the Super Black Eagle, one of the first semi-automatics capable of firing 2", 3" and 3" shells, the Inertia Drive system proved reliable to a fault throughout two-and-a-half decades of service in a series of models. This Benelli test target is "within parameters" according to Benelli. Has anyone tried the Performance Shop version? The 828U represents a true breakthrough in over-under shotgun design, and Benelli hopes it will also help the company break through with a whole new group of upland and recreational sport shooters. But if you look at the under side of the safety lever with the trigger group out and work it back and forth you can see studs on both sides that ride under spring arms. My daughter can't move the safety lever and it takes me some good pushing. I have shot one and it's definitely no slouch but after years of growing up on Bronwing SO's and now Beretta 68x guns I just can't get with it, it's just too "different" for me to get comfortable with. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? I've own 'B' guns, SKB's, and Rizzini O/U's. With that being said, every gun I have bought I have shot beforehand, so it would be uncharacteristic for me to buy one without trying it, though it is clear there aren't many of these around. I have only seen one of the sporting versions in use in the area I shoot. An included tool allows easy removal of the module from the gun. When innovation and inspiration collided the 828U was born - the first over/under worthy of the Benelli badge. May just be magic beans but reading and listening to the reps the action design is very interesting and the first major divergence from the John Browning friction design. My Franchi over/under experience wasn't very good. And that it does so confidently and beautifully is difficult to deny. They introduced a 20 gauge version this year. Thanks, won't be out that way until end of Aug. They are not cheap as they run about $2,300 for the black receiver and $2,600 for the silver receiver. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a28dd07b9c52d16 Each barrel is soldered to protrusions machined over the one-piece, heat-treated monobloc. Benelli Model 828U No. I shot 50 rounds and was impressively sore. Combine those conditions with several inches of snow on the ground and a temperature that failed to rise above the single digits, and the hunt proved to be the ideal opportunity to test the mettle of a gun that, at that point, still posed far more questions than it answered. in front of their join at the monobloc to a point 2" from the muzzle. Lightweight with the strength of steel, the Benelli over under features a patented steel locking system that eliminates wear, an ergonomic opening lever which resets the trigger when unlocked, and responsive polymer buffers that compress to absorb recoil energy, adjusting to the load you shoot. The most notable difference is that the 828 features a floating steel breech block within its' aluminum receiver. Required fields are marked *. Also, for the $$, there's a lot of quality gun options competing with it. The breech block also contains the spring-loaded firing pins, making them easily replaceable should the need arise. Archived 828U Sport thread. It makes the gun handle, and perform better in the long term. The problem is, it is a very large pen that you have to get up really high to hold the nib in place while typing. Better triggers - when they work - mine used to go 'click' fail to strike the primer , target lost. The new Benelli also features its Progressive Comfort recoil reduction system, a removable trigger group, Crio free-floating barrels, a carbon-fiber rib and red fiber-optic sight. The 828U opened and closed smoothly and felt solid at lockup. They each have their strengths. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. We achieved very few hard, solid breaks with either of the two test loads fired at various targets, both close and far, using the Benelli. The Benelli 828U differs from its' break-open brethren in several ways. I have no idea what I could be doing to cause this issue. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. But around 2012, Benelli engineers, spurred by the belief that they could contribute something new to traditional shotgunning, quietly began work on an over-under that would be engineered like none before it. Poor patterns, weak target hits, and uninspiring features all contributed to our low grade for this shooting tool. It also exhibited generally neutral handling. While we had no problems working the system, our experience leads us to believe that over time, and after extensive use in the field and on the range, we worry that there may be issues that develop with the mechanism. I bought a Guerini instead with a kinetic balancer and love it. Benelli is the only shotgun I shoot. Re: street price. The matte-blued barrels and receiver helped reduce glare and seemed to be of high quality. Benelli 828U Black Anodized & Blued 12 Gauge 3in Over Under Shotgun - 28in, https://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/828-u-upland-performance-shop-shotguns, Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Our conclusion was that the Model 828U system doesnt like light loads not a good thing in a light firearm. Click to reveal I can keep both pens in one pocket and write with the one that is bigger and easier to reach. JavaScript is disabled. The companys first attempt at offering shooters a stack-barrel, rather than a semiautomatic, prompted our readers to call for our shotgun test team to put together a match-up of the Benelli 828U with a comparable model made by another firearm manufacturer. The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. I spend a lot of time at gun clubs and I have seen only one and it had 28 inch bbls. Gun Value Conditions explained: New in box - 100% condition in unopened box. The only reason to buy one is because it says Benelli. Want more gun reviews? In the past I've found that Gunbroker is not a reliable indicator of street price, though I certainly could be wrong on this one. I bought one about 3 years ago. The latter has laser-cut panels of fish scale checkering at its lower rear corners along with floral scroll engraving designs in panels on the top, sides and bottom. Even with the light loads used in the testing, recoil was significantly more noticeable than with shots fired in the Browning. Advertisement Barrel & Receiver The 828U comes with 26, 28, or 30-inch barrels that have three-inch chambers. Should not take a lot of force to snap closed. The sporting model is almost $4000. After that round I omitted the Benelli 828 from my list of "want to try". Instead I have a set of four rather specific questions that I think are appropriate to ask to the group of (knowledgeable) strangers on this forum. Phillips-head screws hold the pad in place, which, once removed, allows access to the Progressive Comfort module. The floating breech block us intriguing, as are the re-designed ejectors. About 5 months in, it started doubling. Kicked like a mule. 10701 12 Gauge, $2,500 GUN TESTS GRADE: C Although Benelli has a reputation for producing high-quality semiautomatic shotguns, we found the company's new over/under was lacking in both appearance and performance. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! We were particularly impressed with the pattern spread, finding a very solid and uniform distribution of hits. This caused the Benelli to be a little harder to move into targets similar to the movement required to push a semiautomatic through targets rather than the glide-through handling of a well-balanced over and under. You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. But its also true that the 828U upholds at least one traditionthat of being a uniquely innovative and distinctive firearm bearing the now-famous marque of a motorcycle-turned-gunmaker named Benelli. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); You have entered an incorrect email address! Lots of 'creep' and pretty heavynot knowing the formal measurement. If anyone that owns a benelli says they dont like the 828U they have deeper issues than we should get into on rockslide. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. You could do most of this research yourself. The shotgun just does not have the feel and look of a standard over-and-under. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. For our firing tests, we set up at the patterning range where we quickly discovered that the Crio Flush Fit chokes (Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Modified, Improved Modified and Full) included with the package were not a match for the Browning. ETHOS Shotgun Product Manual (11 MB) For: ETHOS Sport Shotguns, ETHOS . Citing the guns operation as part of the global comfort theme, Vignaroli said the 828Us unique breeching system eliminates the need for a close-tolerance fit at the locking catch, making the gun easy to open. Benelli 828U Black Anodized & Blued 12 Gauge 3in Over Under Shotgun - 28in - A shotgun that feels and shoots like a Benelli from the moment you pick it up to the moment you break it open. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Only broken it down 2-3 times. The shotguns length of pull was 14.25 inches, with a drop at the comb of 1 58 inches and a drop at the heel of 2.5 inches.